How many prosecutions have resulted from this damning report?
NONE
How many of the abusing Religious Orders have had their assets seized?
NONE
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These answers beg the following question: So what HAS happened?

Well the abusers have revealed the extent of their wealth - and much of this wealth was built on the unpaid labour of children. As a result the State, who also (according to the Ryan Report) abused the children and were equally culpable for the abuse, has decided that some of the wealth of the Religious Orders should go to the State …. in effect one set of child abusers is to compensate the other set of abusers.

Only in Ireland!

regarding the ryan report there are so many questions unanswered.
if there is an apology to survivors after admitting the wrong doings of the ryan report then these questions need answering without white washing they are simple questions.

1.who decided to agree to the three year terms of applying to the commission and redress and why, some people out there are trying to protect their families and need time to come forward, why the rush. no one was interested throughout the YEARS we spent in these schools.

2. why cant the survivors be asked themselves to how the government and religious orders can help them personally.

3. why and who decided to set up educational and counseling funds on behalf of the survivors and say the tax payers are paying. while and when if you are on the dole or disability you are entitled to ether or even both. and that the tax payer already pays for those institutions.( almost all survivors are tax payers too) yet the survivors are only sent forms to fill in still not knowing the difference which form is which, or what grant is what. we have to try and rely on survivor groups who are saying they are only survivors themselves we need to contact the education board themselves if any questions. huh.

4. why not look at the number of people immediately affected such as in housing, debt, family crises, and so on.

5. wouldn’t it be fair to say they the survivors have already paid very well into the taxes throughout their childhood, with all the very very hard work they had to produce every single day in those institutions as innocent children.

6. wouldn’t it be fair to say that those in insecure rented accommodation be it private or council homes be excepted from the main stream increases as to make life finally a bit more manageable. do you not think this would be cheaper and an honest way to help those who really need it as survivors who find it very hard to cope through no fault of their own.

7. medical cards should be automatically given to the survivors so they can afford their health problems.

8. why cant pensions also be set in place and an early retirement be set up if they need to since they worked from a very tender age of six or even younger..

9. where are those social helpers who can help survivors with difficulties with forms and so on even the traveling communities have them. they can help the survivors now and properly too. to make sure they get all their entitlements.

10. family resource centers should be a consideration as they ARE experienced to handle these matters.

11. why do community welfare ask a lot of questions regarding redress money like for instance did you receive redress, how much redress have you got left and so on then decisions be made accordingly and can be proven.

12. why cant larger clothing grants be allocated to survivors as they are still in rags.

13. should traveling passes be given to them as freedom to move from the day they were in captivity.

14. why were pennies given to the survivors in ireland and real money in america paid out to their survivors.

15. was ireland one of the richest in europe at the time of the redress mm i wonder.

16. the redress settlements were paid out before the ryan report came out, this only makes sense if one knows how bad the situation can be so to save money it was done as such.
normally all facts would have to be gathered firstly just as in all the institutions of ireland then and only then a decision would be made on all the information given. with all the statements is’ent obvious what was going on now.

17. why, how many schools a survivor was in, not taken into consideration properly.

18. moving a child from one school to another is dramatic enough for a child to cope with so how can a child be forced to name names of previous people in schools they have been in when they constantly are living in fear of the collar in front of them because of the experiences behind them.
second chance was mentioned by a survivor support group in cork city yet the same group leader said you cannot claim from each school why not? and who agreed to such nonsense has been unfair to those survivors. so much for some survivor support groups. huh.

19. why is there no mention of children put into these institutions who were international citizens such as english with english birthcerts, a whole area OVERLOOKED by all trusted offices including the ryan report and the redress board. there was no mention of this in the media also not to their fault.
and racial discrimination was not also taken into account either.

20. if christian brothers, nuns, priests, deacons, bishops and popes are servants of god then what god is their leader that such things were allowed and they live like the rich who will not inherit the kingdom of god as they preached themselves. they have homes, plenty to eat, clothing, black clothing at that not white for purity. money, new cars and so on even today on the handouts of the people who trusted that the money was going to the needy. something smells very bad here.

21. please sort out these questions as they need answering and properly taken care of on behalf of those who suffered a life time. other wise how can a great country like ireland be trusted ever again. a great thank you to all who stood and stand by us survivors in these dark days, and may you who stand bring us into the light where we can be proud of this country and its people. saying you did your best to put the wrongs right.

22. the religious orders should pay towards these areas as they said themselves we are your family now. so do as you are told or else. this is the only way

23 i believe, never mind saying the tax payer would have to pay to amend the redress bill in question as it is very very wrong, a total disgrace to the irish people, and country as a whole, how pennies were yet again thrown down into the orphans face and told to go away. it was very cheap, dirty, cunning and just another insult to the same pain as before.

the bill has to be amended. and any money or dealings with the religious orders should be handed down to those who are struggling most in our society the men and women who still suffer from the trusted peers.
the government before the brake said it would cost the tax payer (that word again used like a scrubbing brush ) too much to amend the bill, well i say the pope should pay the bill to be amended if he is a man of god and leader of the irish church, if not then may the real god protect and serve us. after all both state and church are wanting to join hands in running schools today. well clean up first i say clean up and sort out the disgusting mess created by the very same. if you build your house on sand will it not sink? push rubbish under a carpet will it not become a mountain?.
the only ones that have been supported by this bill are those as usual the rich who can afford the educational, counseling fees now do not have to pay if you look at this mess the poorer need to use the pennies to survive. counciling is used just to cope today because of the pressure of living life is in the way of dealing with the past as it was the past that caused all the problems today. while all the men and women are alive today, so are the children we are here just as the government and church is here today so make allowances for the true support of these people. never mind using the tax payer as a scrubbing brush the vatican is the richest church in the world probley richer than ireland.

also, this wasn’t happening to children from middle class families. The systematic rape and murder exposed by the Ryan commission was known about for decades, but it was the systematic rape and murder of children from working class families. and nobody in power gave a flying fuck about them.

Here’s one example, just to show that people knew about it, and also to show that even when people protested, nothing was done by the judges, police, and political class.

http://dublinopinion.com/2007/12/09/the-mere-sight-of-you-sickens-me/

Irish Justice Ministers, 1932-1994. Why didn’t they do something about this?

Kevin O’Higgins
W. T. Cosgrave
James FitzGerald-Kenney
James Geoghegan
P. J. Ruttledge
Gerald Boland
Seán Mac Eoin
Daniel Morrissey
Gerald Boland
James Everett
Oscar Traynor
Charles Haughey
Seán Lemass (acting)
Brian Lenihan, Snr
Micheál Ó Móráin
Desmond O’Malley
Patrick Cooney
Gerry Collins
Jim Mitchell
Seán Doherty
Michael Noonan
Alan Dukes
Gerry Collins (2nd time)
Ray Burke
Pádraig Flynn
Máire Geoghegan-Quinn